What is a good track frame?

patgoral's picture

Im looking at spending between $800 and $1300 on a frame. I have been looking at the Masi Coltello, Dolan Champion, Felt TK2, Blue TR250, Koga Full Pro Track, or Specialized Langster S-Works. What do you think is the best option, or are there any other better frames out there for the price?

ckdake's picture

simple. pick the one that

simple. pick the one that looks best.

edit: or the one that all or none of your friends/associates/peers/heros have

patgoral's picture

haha, im looking mostly for

haha, im looking mostly for performance over looks

ckdake's picture

So seriously, track frames

So seriously, track frames of a similar $ will be of similar performance. Given how much time you've spent on the track, I doubt the slight nuances of frame geometry among frames of the same size and prize range will affect you very much. Heck, all your adjustments can probably be made by moving your seat backwards and forwards 2cm, using a different length/rise stem, and different shaped drops. Everyone has a different handlebar they like the best.

Pick one that you like the way it looks, and hopefully that you can get a good deal on. Take a look at pictures from the track (here for example) and notice that there are almost as many different bikes as people.

And what about that art bike that you had to sell to stay out of jail????

patgoral's picture

I ended up keeping it

I ended up keeping it because I found a new job sooner than I had thought, so luckily I get to keep it. I appreciate your opinion, I think I have narrowed it down between the Felt TK2, Blue tr250, or Cinelli Vigorelli. I was in jail but just for a few days. Now I have a new job and want to get riding.

kurt's picture

those three frames

Those frames are all going to be great at the track I'm sure. I ride the Felt TK2 and its great.

None of those frames are any good whatsoever for city riding! You probably assumed that, but they are super-duper-stiff and will give your ass a pounding on the streets, plus they are light and delicate.

So yeah, for left turn only bikes they are the bomb.

patgoral's picture

Exactly what I was looking

Exactly what I was looking for. I already am set with the street fixed gear. I hear that the TK2 can be twitchy or something, what do you think?

durkie's picture

not that you were asking me

but it definitely has the twitchiest geometry of the three you listed: steeper headtube, shorter chainstays, less fork rake. don't know about the bb drop.

but...if it's down to those three, and this is your first track frame and you don't really know what you want, it seems like short of actually riding all three and deciding what you like, doesn't seem like you can go wrong with middle of the road, which would be the blue. (although you might want to double check that).

and even though i'm sure they're all made right next to each other in taiwan, blue bikes at least has a georgia hq. support your local scene right?

patgoral's picture

Also what kind of size would

Also what kind of size would I be looking at getting? I am 6 foot tall and my current road bike is a 59, would I want a smaller frame or stick to like a 58 or something?

ckdake's picture

one that fits you. theres a

one that fits you. theres a lot more to bike fitting than just how tall you are. go to a bike shop that knows how to fit people to track frames. FM:Race is good friends with: http://55nineperformance.com/

patgoral's picture

have you used them? is it

have you used them? is it really worth the money?

ckdake's picture

I have not personally, but a

I have not personally, but a few people on FM:Race have and put it about on par with sliced bread.

patgoral's picture

hm, I may try it out after I

hm, I may try it out after I build up my bike. Do you guys have any other suggestions for track frames that are in a similar price range as the blue, felt, or cinneli?

griggey's picture

a couple people ride the

a couple people ride the Fuji Track Pro

snot rocket's picture

two birds one stone

i heard that he is set up in AVX right now so you may be able to buy a new Blue and get fitted in the same day/building.

kurt's picture

sounds like a question for your local bike shop

I know that Richard at AVX stocks the Blues. And NoBrakes is starting to carry some serious track bikes, too.

patgoral's picture

Ok, I'm really liking the

Ok, I'm really liking the Dolan Champion that No Brakes carries. I'm going to go to AVX and check out those Blues next week.

Teh Black Hole's picture

Get fitted.

I second what CK said. Originally I figured I was good match for XL/21" sized MTB given my height. Way wrong. M/18" is my size after I got fitted. Who'da'thunk it?

griggey's picture

really?

you're ~4 feet taller than me.... I'm surprised you ride an 18".

Teh Black Hole's picture

Yeah, 18". I was surprised

Yeah, 18". I was surprised as well. Once I got my new frame in and rode it around, the difference was night and day. Climb better, turn better, descend better, everything better. A short torso and long legs make for strange bike sizes.

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and goofy stems (blushes)

equally suprising...

I went a size *up* on my touring/commuter frame since the head tube angle was so slack (72 degrees). I tend the think of myself as a 55 cm - 56 cm frame kind of guy. But with a slack and extended head tube, I went up to a 58 cm.

durkie's picture

how about

a surly steamroller and $600 of epo?

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i thought you were in jail

snot rocket's picture

he's accessing fm.org from

he's accessing fm.org from his blackberry. they have wifi in prison now.

Is it still too soon?

To ask what crime was committed?

patgoral's picture

alright whatever, it was

alright whatever, it was just theft from my workplace. It was really small stuff but it was a stupid decision and now I'm paying the price.

don't sweat the small stuff

lesson learned, I'm sure. Keep your head up and remember, don't get caught!

Jeff's picture

11th Commandment:

Don't get caught. Obey this one and you can blow the other 10 off...

patgoral's picture

also, does anyone know much

also, does anyone know much about Pinarello brand? I saw AVX carries it, and didn't know if anyone has experience on any of their track frames?

Dfunk's picture

All I know about pinarello

All I know about pinarello is that, until very recently, they manufactured awesome lugged steel road frames at a fairish price. Lots of my co-workers ride them. Other than that, ?

patgoral's picture

and as far as wheels go,

and as far as wheels go, should I go with tubular or clinchers for the track?

theothergraham's picture

yes

yes

if you go with tubulars,

ckdake's picture

simple. pick the ones that

simple. pick the ones that looks best.

or the one that all or none of your friends/associates/peers/heros have